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Miss Universe 2025

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Contested draft. WP:BEFORE search reveals a lot about a couple of 2024 pageants (mostly Miss Universe 2024), but little to nothing about Miss Universe 2025. Might be a ”not now” situation. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 06:23, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shirsendu

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Sources are SPONSORED, which don’t count towards notability. The other sources do not provide WP:SIGCOV, and the subject fails to meet WP:GNG. GrabUp - Talk 06:22, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey, I just noticed your comment on the created article. I do have more sources but I didn't add them as it conflicts with the unambiguous advertising. But I do wanna show you:.

Google Knowledge Panel: https://g.co/kgs/C3mq8zy (It is generated by google only from trusted sources)

This person seems to an artist as well. I did happen to find his Spotify artist profile: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0OSjTTuzVglE32S8qUi0rw

This person also has an official artist channel on Youtube (Channel with music note) which is only possible if he is a genuine artist: https://www.youtube.com/@shirshaw64p

This person also has a verified facebook page back from 2021 when paid verification wasn't even an option. Link: https://www.facebook.com/Shirshaw64p

This things I haven't added as it would be promotional. But from what I listed, that is why I feel like this person is notable. Nathanbyrd25 (talk) 06:37, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nathanbyrd25: These things do not establish notability on Wikipedia. Please read WP:NOTABILITY, which requires in-depth coverage from multiple independent, reliable sources. GrabUp - Talk 06:40, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Some related conversation from when this was still a draft on my talk page. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 06:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Battle for Grbavica (Lašva Valley)

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Unsourced right now; used to be unreliably sourced. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 06:19, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of submissions for the Academy Award for Best Animated Feature

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The topic for this list is unencyclopedic. While it is possible to find a list of submitted films by year, this is trivial information – there is a major difference between being nominated (or even shortlisted) and merely being eligible. (As a comparison, would we allow a list of every Best Picture–eligible film? I suspect not even though sources exist.) See WP:INDISCRIMINATE. RunningTiger123 (talk) 05:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Professor Farnsworth

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This is not an AfD i want to do. I absolutely love Futurama and it was one of my favorite comedy cartoons, but unfortunately, this character does not pass WP:GNG. Of the eight sources, none are independent and are only passing mentions, some don't even discuss him, at all. I tried doing a WP:BEFORE and i can't find anything that talks about him.

Again, i didn't want to do this, but i have to, there is no turning back from what i am doing, so i am doing the right thing to nominate this for AfD. Toby2023 (talk) 05:02, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Thoroughbred Racing on CBS commentators

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I'm not finding the needed coverage of these commentators as a grouping to meet the WP:LISTN. Let'srun (talk) 05:15, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Clare McCann

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Written as a PR piece with lack of proper sourcing. References used mention very little about the subject neither are they the focus of the person. May not meet WP:GNG. AnonUser1 (talk) 04:23, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. A lot of the sources appear to be offline. It's hard to assess newspaper coverage when there are no url links. Did the nominator access these sources, and if so where so we can all view them? If the nominator did not view the cited materials, then in good faith we should accept them as containing WP:SIGCOV of the subject.4meter4 (talk) 05:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I was unable to locate online any of the newspaper sources mentioned so could not verify. Some of the sources listed appear to have associated websites that publish online versions of their newspaper articles, yet none of the articles referenced seem to exist. AnonUser1 (talk) 05:52, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Red Cord Records

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I am also nominating

Falls short of WP:NCORP. Previously deleted with unanimous delete consensus in 2012. I'm not seeing happenings resulting in coverages in the 12 years since then that puts this company above the NCORP threshold. After it was deleted, it was re-created by a long-term undisclosed paid editor with promotional PR activity involvment. The additional sources with newer dates than the previous AfD are basically "did this..." "released this..." WP:ROUTINE events. Graywalls (talk) 04:40, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The coverage is all about signings, but not really about the company itself. Fails WP:ORGCRIT.4meter4 (talk) 05:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Justin Woolverton

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Run-of-the-mill CEO who is not notable beyond his company, Halo Top Creamery. Most sources cited in the article are focused on the "healthy" quality of the ice cream and the strategy of the brand's viral marketing. I also have concerns about the depth and content of some of the cited articles from business news publications (e.g., Business Insider, Fast Company, and Entrepreneur) per WP:CORPDEPTH and whether they can be considered significant coverage (SIGCOV) of the company. Best, Bridget (talk) 02:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 04:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Halo Top Creamery per WP:ATD.4meter4 (talk) 05:33, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Warren Hue

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Relying on self-promotional press releases without significant coverage from independent, reliable sources. Fails WP:GNG Pridemanty (talk) 04:27, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I found one good album review here: [1] He also gets a decent brief critical nod in this Pitchfork review on another artist's album on which he was a guest performer. If a few more decent references are found he could be notable. Best.4meter4 (talk) 05:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Blood quota

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Several claims in the article are inadequately supported by reliable and verifiable sources. Assertions about the centrality of the "Blood Quota" to the Shining Path’s ideology are not backed by academic or historical works explicitly addressing this term as a concept. This undermines the credibility of the article.

The tone of the article is biased and excessively negative. For instance, phrases such as "communist militants willfully promoted hatred and violence to attract adherents" reflect an unbalanced perspective. The article fails to present counterpoints or explore broader historical contexts, such as the societal conditions or political dynamics of Peru during the Shining Path’s rise. Much of the article appears to rely on synthesis or interpretation not directly supported by the cited sources. For example, connecting the "Blood Quota" to Gonzalo Thought as a strategic doctrine is speculative and lacks corroborating evidence from established analyses of the Shining Path’s ideology. Volantor (talk) 03:01, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy keep per WP:WRONGFORUM and procedural close. It sounds like these are WP:CONTENTDISPUTE and WP:POV issues but not WP:Notability issues. This could easily be solved by editing the article to fix content issues through WP:BOLD and/or by dialoguing on the article's talk page using the WP:CONSENSUS process. Failing that, take this to the Wikipedia:No original research/Noticeboard. Either way, no notability or WP:Deletion policy based rationale for deletion has been made by the nominator and this should be closed immediately for procedural reasons. AFD is not the place to work out content disputes.4meter4 (talk) 03:23, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deadair Records

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No significant coverage or anything more than trivial mentions. Frost 02:29, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. None of the sources are primarily about the record label itself. I couldn't find any coverage on the record label. Oddly enough the only news source I found was on a record shop in th UK that has the same name. Fails WP:ORG.4meter4 (talk) 03:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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John Clark (American actor)

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None of the sources in this article say even close to 100 words about Clark. These are all just passing mentions, i.e. "role name (John Clark)", in works about various films. This is not just a notability issue, but even more fundamentally a verifiability issue, as we have nothing to confirm that this John Clark is the John Clark mentioned in these sources, as opposed to John Clark (English actor) or any number of other people with that very common name. I've tried to find any sources covering this John Clark in depth, and found nothing. This is admittedly hampered by the common-ness of his name, but even including "Western" or "St. Augustine" (his place of death according to this non-RS obituary) is no help. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 02:22, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. That's not exactly an accurate assessment. While IMDb is not usable here for notability purposes, the filmography on the wiki page does match the IMDb listing for this John Clark, and the English actor has lots of coverage which all verifies his appearance in films. The English actor clearly was not performing in Spaghetti Westerns in the United States based on the sources on the English actor. I really don't think there are mistakes in the filmography on this page. That said, we do need some kind of significant coverage on this person with a career broad scope. I would look for an obituary because that is likely the place to find a career overview. Best.4meter4 (talk) 03:02, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) Delete. IMDb is, in my experience, pretty reliable as far as credits are concerned (so no confusion with the Brit), and this guy had just minor roles (e.g. "Livery Store Owner") and not too many of even those, so a very clear failure of WP:NACTOR. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:09, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Fibras Industriales S.A.

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I am unable to find anything approaching significant coverage for this company, whose article was unsourced since its creation in 2006 until a a dubious source was added a few days ago. PROD was contested. JTtheOG (talk) 02:17, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Possibly selective merge/redirect to fishing net? As a major manufacturer of fishing nets a brief one sentence mention there might be appropriate as an WP:ATD. Otherwise fails WP:ORGCRIT and should be deleted.4meter4 (talk) 02:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Joel Reyes Zobel

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Not meet WP:BIO fails in WP:GNG. Royiswariii Talk! 01:34, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment his bio at GMA lists a bunch of awards he has won, including a Kapisanan ng mga Brodkaster ng Pilipinas (aka Golden Dove Award). That is a significant media award in the Philippines and would meet criteria 4 of WP:JOURNALIST. If we can find an independent source for that fact, the article should probably be kept.4meter4 (talk) 02:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of prime ministers of Italy by time in office

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Unreferenced, and there is no information here that isn't already present in List of prime ministers of Italy. Sgubaldo (talk) 00:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The other list is better and has all the same content. We don't need duplicate lists.4meter4 (talk) 01:08, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge to List of prime ministers of Italy (specifically, adapting the table on the new target to be sortable and thus to provide all the navigational value here). Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:29, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deathstroke (Marvel Comics)

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The DC Comics version is way more notable than this one. He isn't notable at all, the article has no publication history and only has one section, in which it says he fought and was defeated by Spider-Woman. He only has two sources, one is a list of supervillains, and another a dead link of the comic issue itself. His article is a complete mess. Toby2023 (talk) 00:22, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to List of Marvel Comics characters: D. The encyclopedia entry by Rovin seems like a descent enough source, but I see no reason we couldn't cover the character in a list.4meter4 (talk) 00:39, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge per 4meter4. BOZ (talk) 01:20, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of serving generals of the People's Republic of China

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This list purports to include all "serving generals of the PRC", but in fact only lists 7 generals occupying some key posts. It's not at all clear that a list of all active generals in an army of 2,000,000+ personnel could ever be kept up to date. I'm not even sure that China publishes the names of all top officers.

Renaming could be an option, but it's not clear what the name would be.

Additionally, it's not really Wikipedia's core mission to provide lists of current anythings (WP:NOTDIRECTORY, WP:NOTTEMPORARY). I could imagine a more appropriate list which included all historic commanders, and gave readers a timeline of command, but that's not what this is.

FWIW, the list has been unreferenced since its inception, although I imagine this deficiency could be remedied easily enough. pburka (talk) 00:20, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep at present. Passes WP:NLIST as a clearly defined set. Also top military personnel in a major world power would be easily sourced. Making arguments about WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:NOTTEMPORARY would be more convincing if there weren't many other lists of this kind. We have a Category:Lists of active duty military personnel and the arguments being made here seem to be pertinent to all the lists currently in that category. It would be better to make this a bundled nomination if we are going to generally attack the idea of pages listing active duty military personnel. I suspect that when looked at as a group, there might be support for keeping such lists as encyclopedic. Lastly, the other argument that this is incomplete is spurious as we have policies on dynamic and incomplete lists as well as stub pages which support their inclusion and instruct editors to improve/expand coverage rather than delete them. Being incomplete is not a valid reason for deletion.4meter4 (talk) 00:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sven (Voltron)

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Unfortunately, as i am a Voltron fan myself, this character fails WP:GNG. My WP:BEFORE found nothing, it only talks about the shows he is from. This is something i didn't want to do, but i have to nominate it. I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same issues as him.:

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Procedural keep for The Rise of Voltron as it is an episode and not a character and does not belong in this bundled nomination. It should be nominated separately. Merge all others to List of Voltron characters per WP:ATD.4meter4 (talk) 00:19, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know it is an episode, but i still included this because it is Voltron after all. It doesn't pass WP:GNG. Toby2023 (talk) 00:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand, but it's best to bundle nominations where the outcomes have a shared ending. In general, the bundling process is best avoided when articles are not very close in design. A charcter page is very different then a television episode page.4meter4 (talk) 01:03, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural close WP:NPASR, but make sure that WP:BUNDLE is scrupulously followed per the above. If not, this is more likely than not going to end up as a train wreck. Better to restart clean with separate noms for characters and episode(s) rather than hoping it doesn't go off the rails. Jclemens (talk) 04:01, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]